Training Insights Episode 17: Lost in the Desert

A chat with Phil Geldart of Eagle’s Flight.

Episode 17 of this podcast series, produced by Ottawa-based writer/audio producer Kevin McGowan in partnership with Training magazine, features a chat with Phil Geldart of Eagle’s Flight. Discover how one idea saved his business, and how he approaches management/leadership training through experiential learning.

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This podcast series includes one-on-one interviews with fascinating people in the training/learning and development world. The podcasts focus on training technologies, projects, career paths, and more. They aim to provide listeners with a unique view into training and knowledge development.

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